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"God can in no way be described." -- Plato (Father of the pagan Trinity) "The Trinity itself is a mystery or a "holy secret". It is incomprehensible. It can never be fully understood." -- Dr. Walter Martin

1 Corinthians 14:33 -- "God is not the author of confusion. "

Of course, that doesn't stop the above writer, along with B. Larson, R. Rhodes, James R. White and others from trying to explain the unexplainable. The above writers will use scriptures like John 1:1,18; 8:58; Acts 20:28; Romans 9:5; Hebrews 1:8 etc.

Have you ever noticed that Bible Dictionaries and most scholarly religious encyclopedias and reference works don't use those scriptures. Why is that? Because they don't prove a trinity. For a trinity you need "THREE".

In the above scriptures, and in almost all so-called "Trinity Proof" texts, the holy spirit is woefully under-represented. Using the above scriptures is less trinitarian and more Sabbelianism/Modalism. Just like this quotation from the myopic James R. White, "The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ is the eternal Word, the Creator of all things, the mighty God, as the Nicene Creed states it so succinctly, ...there is no Christianity where this truth is denied. Of this there can be no question." (The King James Only Controversy)

So what is this "truth" of the Nicene Creed?

It was 325 A.D. at Nice that the doctrine of the Trinity was rammed through by Athanasius (who in the future would use strong-arm tactics that would make a modern day mobster proud) in a Council that was overseen by the Emperor Constantine who, ironically enough, thought of himself as God-incarnate. (Constantine was a Sun Worshipper and only made an official conversion to "christianity" on his deathbed). Roman coins of the period still portrayed the image of the sun God despite the sudden adoption/conversion of Christianity. Many of those present at the Council Of Nicaea were in fact opposed the doctrine of the Trinity and had sided with Arius, who was quite adept and effective in proving from the scriptures that the Son was separate and subordinate to God. Much less effective was Athanasius's theory of homoousion which meant "made of the same stuff". By this reasoning though, you could have 2 copper coins that were homoousion because they were of the same substance...so couldn't the Word (Logos) also be a second and separate god. Even after the Nicene Creed, the doctrine of the Trinity was hotly debated for decades and centuries after.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AFTER NICAEA

325 AD - Constantine convenes the Council of Nicaea in order to develop a statement of faith that can unify the church. The Nicene Creed is written, declaring that "the Father and the Son are of the same substance" (homoousios). Emperor Constantine who was also the high priest of the pagan religion of the Unconquered Sun presided over this council.

According to the Encyclopedia Britannica:
"Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions and personally proposed the crucial formula expressing the relationship of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, `of one substance with the Father'."

The American Academic Encyclopedia states:
"Although this was not Constantine's first attempt to reconcile factions in Christianity, it was the first time he had used the imperial office to IMPOSE a settlement."

At the end of this council, Constantine sided with Athanasius over Arius and exiled Arius to Illyria.

328 AD - Athanasius becomes bishop of Alexandria.

328 AD - Constantine recalls Arius from Illyria.

335 AD - Constantine now sides with Arius and exiles Athanasius to Trier.

337 AD - A new emperor, Contantius, orders the return of Athanasius to Alexandria.

339 AD - Athanasius flees Alexandria in anticipation of being expelled.

341 AD - Two councils are held in Antioch this year. During this council, the First, Second, and Third Arian Confessions are written, thereby beginning the attempt to produce a formal doctrine of faith to oppose the Nicene Creed.

343 AD - At the Council of Sardica, Eastern Bishops demand the removal of Athanasius.

346 AD - Athanasius is restored to Alexandria.

351 AD - A second anti - Nicene council is held in Sirmium.

353 AD - A council is held at Aries during Autumn that is directed against Athanasius.

355 AD - A council is held in Milan. Athanasius is again condemned.

356 AD - Athanasius is deposed on February 8th, beginning his third exile.

357 AD - Third Council of Sirmium is convened. Both homoousios and homoiousios are avoided as unbiblical, and it is agreed that the Father is greater than His subordinate Son.

359 AD - The Synod of Seleucia is held which affirms that Christ is "like the Father," It does not however, specify how the Son is like the Father.

361 AD - A council is held in Antioch to affirm Arius' positions.

380 AD - Emperor Theodosius the Great declares Christianity the official state religion of the empire.

381 AD - The First Council of Constantinople is held to review the controversy since Nicaea. Emperor Theodosius the Great establishes the creed of Nicaea as the standard for his realm. The Nicene Creed is re-evaluated and accepted with the addition of clauses on the Holy Spirit and other matters.

If you believe that Nicaea just formalized the prevalent teaching of the church, then there really should not have been any conflicts. Why should there be? If it were the established teaching of the church, then you would expect people to either accept it, or not be Christians. It would be like me being a member of the Communist Party. I would join it knowing that they do not believe in the ownership of private property, no conflict. But now, say after I have been a member of the party for a few years, someone decides to introduce a proposal that we allow the ownership of private property, not everyone in the party is going to agree, the result is conflict. This is similar to what happened in the church. It was not the established teaching, and when some faction of the church tried to make it official, the result was major conflict.

It was mainly a theological power grab by certain factions of the church. The major complication throughout all this was that the emperors were involved. At Nicaea it was Constantine that decided the outcome. Then as you can see, we have the flip-flopping of opinion with the result that Athanasius is exiled and recalled depending on who is in power. We even have in 357 AD the declaration that homoousios and homoiousios are unbiblical, and that the Father is greater than His subordinate Son.

This is 180 degrees from Nicaea. It is definitely not the Trinitarian formula.

In 380 AD Emperor Thedosius declares Christianity the state religion. One can come to the conclusion that whichever way Theodosius favors, that is the way in which it is going to end. This is exactly what happened next.

In 381 AD the struggle was finally ended by the current emperor, Theodosius the Great, who favored the Nicene position. Just like at Nicaea, the EMPEROR again decided it. The emperors were dictating the theology of the church.

The big difference now was that there was not going to be any more changing sides. It was now the state religion. You cannot make Christianity the state religion and then change its beliefs every few years. It would undermine its credibility as the true faith. The Trinity was now the orthodox position, and the state was willing to back it up. Debates however, would continue for years to come. Juan Baixeras

"These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far way from me. Their worship of me is useless, because they teach man-made rules as if they were doctrines." Matt. 15:8 Jewish N. T.

From the Webmaster: For the most part, the trinitarian church has silenced critical thought and dealt treacherously with anyone of open mind and free thought. In the 1670's, Isaac Newton quietly studied the Trinity and came to the conclusion that the doctrine was foisted on the Church by Athanasius in order to swell the numbers and fill the coffers. He concluded Arius was right and he claimed that the Bible had prophesied the Rise of Trinitarianism("this strange religion of the west", the cult of 3 equal gods) as the abomination of desolation. -- The Rise of Science and Decline of Orthodox Christianity. A study of Kepler, Descartes and Newton. After Newton, others such as Matthew Tindal, John Toland, Gottfried Arnold, Goerg Walch, Giovanni

But, Henry Noris and Hermann Samuel Reimarus argued Arianism (unitarianism) and opened up a new era of criticism. It is only logical for people to argue after this, "What else has the Church lied to us about?" This unfortunately led to Higher Criticism of the bible in the 19th century which in turn, paved the way for evolutionism and Neitzsche's death of God. Is it not logical that to replace a polytheistic trinity, man would have to become gods themselves.

The Superman would replace God and declare war on old christian values. (Thus Spake Zarathustra 1883) Can this happen to the message of Christ? It can if the message is diluted. Albrecht Ritschl(1822-89) saw the Trinity doctrine as flagrantly Hellenistic. It had corrupted the Christian message by introducing an alien "layer of metaphysical concepts, derived from the natural philosophy of the Greeks," and it had nothing to do with early christianity.

Quotes:
"The doctrine of the Trinity is a post-scriptural attempt to bring to coherent expression diverse affirmations about God..." -- Grolier Encyclopedia

"Most assuredly, I am saying to you, A slave is not greater than his master, nor even one who is sent on a mission greater than the one who sent him." -- John 13:16 (Kenneth S. Wuest)

"The Chalcedonian formula [the council's decision declaring Jesus both God and man] makes genuine humanity impossible. The conciliar definition says that Jesus is true man. But if there are two natures in him, it is clear which will dominate. And Jesus becomes immediately very different from us. He is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. He knows the past, present and future...He knows exactly what everyone is thinking and going to do. This is far from ordinary human experience. Jesus is tempted but cannot sin becasue he is God. What kind of temptation is this? It has little in common with the kinds of struggles we are familiar with." To Know and Follow Jesus, Roman Catholic writer Thomas Hart (Paulist Press, 1984), 46.

"And the LORD said...'you cannot see my face, for no man may see me and live.'" Ex. 33:19, 20 NIV

"It is exegesis of a mischievous if pious sort that would find the doctrine of the Trinity
in the plural form elohim [God]" ("God," Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics)

"Surely Christ has not been divided." 1 Corinthians 1:13 Revised English Bible

Historian Will Durant: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity." And in the book Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz notes: "The trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians . . . Three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology."

"He is exactly like God himself who is invisible. Of all creation, he was the first to be produced." Col 1:15 21st Century NT

"But how can such weak creatures ever take in so strange, so difficult and so abtruse a doctrine as this [the Trinity], in the explication and defence wherof multitudes of men, even men of learning and piety, have lost themselves in infinite subtleties of dispute and endless mazes of darkness? And can this strange and perplexing notion of three real persons going up to make one true God be so necessary and important a part of that Christian doctrine, which, in the Old Testament and the New, is represented as so
plain and so easy, even to the meanest understandings."
William G. Eliot, Discourses on the Doctrines of Christianity (American Unitarian Association, Boston,1877), pp. 97, 100

"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth." Ps 83:18 King James Version

The Eastern Theologian John of Damascus (c. 675-749) once used a very curios argument in favour of icons...John replied to the criticism are unscriptural by admitting the fact, and adding that you will not find in scripture the Trinity, of homousian or the two natures of Christ either. But we know those doctrines are true. And so, having acknowledged that icons, the Trinity and the incarnation are innovations, John goes on to urge his reader to hold fast to them as venerable traditions delivered to us by the Fathers...He was not the only one to use this argument: Theodore the Studite (759-826) adopted it too. It brings out an odd feature to Christianity, its mutability and speed with which innovations come to be vested with religious solemnity to such an extent that anyone who questions them find himself regarded as the dangerous innovator and heretic." The Christ of Christendom by Don Cupitt, as used in The Myth of God Incarnate, p. 133

"Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." Is 43:10 ASV

In the preface to Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity, we read: "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."

"Is there not one Father of us all? Did not one God create us? Why then, do we break faith with one another, profaning the covenant of our ancestors." Malachi 2:10 NJB

"Only one, the Father, can absolutely be termed the ‘only true God,’ not at the same
time Christ (who is not even in I John 5:20 the true God…). Jesus, in unity with the
Father, works as his commissioner (John 10:30), and is His representative (John 14:9, 10) (Professor H.A.W. Meyer, Commentary on the New Testament. The quotation is from his comment on John 17:3).

The son honours his father, the slave stands in awe of his master. But if I am indeed father, where is the honour due to me? And if I am indeed master, where is the awe due to me? says Yahweh Sabaoth to you priests who despise my name." Malachi 1:6 NJB

"It was impossible for the Apostles to identify Christ with Jehovah. Psalm 110:1 and
Malachi 3:1 prevented this" (R.A Bigg, D.D. Regius Professor of Ecclesiastical
History, Oxford, in International Critical Commentary on I Peter).

"glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." Romans 15:6 ASV

"Does this mean that early Christian theology was "nothing but" paganism with a biblical accent? Or, to paraphrase Numenius, was Christianity no more than Plato with a faint Palestinian accent?...We should not say it was "no more than" the sum of its parts, but the reality of the pagan environment cannot be neglected." Gods and the One God, Robert M. Grant, p. 170

"We have one Father, God." John 8:41 Lamsa

"Christendom has done away with Christianity without being quite aware of it" (Soren
Kierkegaard, cited in Time magazine, Dec. 16, 1946, p. 64).

"There is...one God and Father of all" Eph 4:4,6 ASV

"In his theological interpretation of the idea of God, Arius was
interested in maintaining a formal understanding of the oneness of God. In
defense of the oneness of God, he was obliged to dispute the sameness of
essence of the Son and the Holy Spirit with God the Father, as stressed by
the theologians of the Neoplatonically influenced Alexandrian school. From
the outset, the controversy between both parties took place upon the common
basis of the Neoplatonic concept of substance, which was foreign to the New
Testament itself. It is no wonder that the continuation of the dispute on
the basis of the metaphysics of substance likewise led to concepts that have
no foundation in the New Testament--such as the question of the sameness of
essence (homoousia) or similarity of essence (homoiousia) of the divine
persons." Brittanica.com

"For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God." 1Cor 3:19 Tyndale

"The three-in-one/one-in-three mystery of Father, Son and Holy Ghost made tritheism official. The subsequent almost-deification of the Virgin Mary made it quatrotheism . . . Finally, cart-loads of saints raised to quarter-deification turned Christianity into plain old-fashioned polytheism. By the time of the Crusades, it was the most polytheistic religion to ever have existed, with the possible exception of Hinduism. This untenable contradiction between the assertion of monotheism and the reality of polytheism was dealt with by accusing other religions of the Christian fault. The Church - Catholic and later Protestant - turned aggressively on the two most clearly monotheistic religions in view - Judaism and Islam - and persecuted them as heathen or pagan. "
"The external history of Christianity consists largely of accusations that other religions rely on the worship of more than one god and therefore not the true God. These pagans must therefore be converted, conquered and/or killed for their own good in order that they benefit from the singularity of the Holy Trinity, plus appendages." -- The Doubter's Companion (John Ralston Saul)

"It isn't for me to say who will sit at my right side and at my left. That is for my Father to say." -- Matthew 20:23 - Contemporary English Version

"In brief, the ante-Nicene Fathers taught the real distinction and divinity of the three persons . . . but in their attempts at a philosophical interpretation of the Dogma, the ante-Nicene Fathers used certain expressions which would favor sudordinationism. In the late 17th century, the Socinians cited these expressions that the ante-Nicene tradition agreed rather with Arius than with Athanasius . . . Catholic theologians commonly defend the orthodoxy of these early Fathers, while admitting that certain of their expressions were inaccurate and eventually dangerous." -- Colliers Encyclopedia

"Yeshua(Jesus) said to him, 'Why are you calling me good? No one is good except God!" -- Mark 10:18 - Jewish New Testament - D.H. Stern

"You simply simply cannot find the doctrine of the Trinity set out anywhere in the Bible. St Paul has the highest view of Jesus' role and person, but nowhere does he call him God. Nor does Jesus himself explicitly claim to be the second person of the Trinity, wholly equal to his heavenly Father." -- For Christ's Sake by Tom Harpur (Anglican Priest).

"Hear, O Israel, the lord our God is one lord." -- Deuteronomy 6:4 (Douay)

"No historical fact is better established, than that the doctrine of one God, pure and uncompounded, was that of the early ages of Christianity . . . Nor was the unity of the Supreme Being ousted from the Christian creed by the force of reason, but by the sword of civil government, wielded at the will of the Athanasius. The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands of martyrs . . . The Athanasian paradox that one is three, and three but one, is so incomprehensible to the human mind, that no candid man can say he has any idea of it, and how can he believe what presents no idea? He who thinks he does, only deceives himself. He proves, also, that man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such person, gullibility which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck." -- Thomas Jefferson: Letter to James Smith, Dec. 8, 1822 For more Letters from T. Jefferson see:
http://www.nidlink.com/~bobhard/tjletters.html

". . . there is only one God." Romans 3:30 - New Jerusalem Bible

"Thus by your own tradition, handed down among you, you make God's word null and void." -- Mark 7:13 - New English Bible

"The doctrine is not taught explicitly in the New Testament, where the word God almost invariably refers to the Father" -- MS Encarta 99

"For God is one; and one is mediator between God and man, the Man Christ Jesus." -- 1 Timothy 2:5 - Montgomery NT

"The word itself does not occur in the Bible...The explicit formula was thus formulated in the post-biblical period, although the early stages of its development can be seen in the NT. Attempts to trace the origin still earlier (to the OT literature) cannot be supported by historical-critical scholarship, and these attempts must be understood as retrospective interpretations of this earlier corpus of Scripture in the light of later theological developments." The Harper Collins Study Bible Dictionary

"We are judged to be heretics because we can no longer believe in essence, person, nature, incarnation, as they want us to believe. If these things are necessary for salvation, it is certain that no poor peasant Christian be saved, because he could never understand them in all his life." -- Francis David (1510-79)

"No one has seen God at any time." -- John 1:18 - New King James Bible

Christ's deity was "repugnant not only to sound Reason, but also to the holy Scriptures." -- Fostus Socinus (1539-1604)

". . . the Father is greater than I." -- John 14:28 - New Revised Standard Version

Catholic theologian Hans Küng in Christianity and the World Religions, "Even well-informed Muslims simply cannot follow, as the Jews thus far have likewise failed to grasp, the idea of the Trinity . . . The distinctions made by the doctrine of the Trinity between one God and three hypostases do not satisfy Muslims, who are confused, rather than enlightened, by theological terms derived from Syriac, Greek, and Latin. Muslims find it all a word game . . . Why should anyone want to add anything to the notion of God's oneness and uniqueness that can only dilute or nullify that oneness and uniqueness?"

"I have come to you from God. I am not here on my own, but he sent me." -- John 8:42 - Living Bible

"The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." -- The Illustrated Bible Dictionary

"There is no God but one." -- I Corinthians 8:4

And a Catholic authority says that the Trinity "is not . . . directly and immediately [the] word of God." -- New Catholic Encyclopedia

"one lord, one faith, one baptism." -- Ephesians 4:5 - Revised Standard Version - Catholic Edition

The Catholic Encyclopedia also says: "In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word [tri'as] (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A. D. 180 . . . Shortly afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian." However, this is no proof in itself that Tertullian taught the Trinity. The Catholic work Trinitas - A Theological Encyclopedia of the Holy Trinity, for example, notes that some of Tertullian's words were later used by others to describe the Trinity. But then it states: "But hasty conclusions cannot be drawn from usage, for he does not apply the words to Trinitarian theology."

". . . let your will be done, not mine." -- Luke 22:42,43 - Jerusalem Bible

The Encyclopedia of Religion says: "Theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."

"For there is but one God and one mediator between God and men - Christ Jesus." -- 1 Timothy 2:5 Weymouth

Jesuit Fortman: "The New Testament writers . . . give us no formal or formulated doctrine of the Trinity, no explicit teaching that in one God there are three co-equal divine persons. . . . Nowhere do we find any trinitarian doctrine of three distinct subjects of divine life and activity in the same Godhead."

"And this is the eternal life, that they know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ Whom thou didst send." -- John 17:3 - Worrell N.T.

The New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."

"The Lord our God is one Lord." -- Mark 12:29 - Webster's Bible

Bernhard Lohse in A Short History of Christian Doctrine: "As far as the New Testament is concerned, one does not find in it an actual doctrine of the Trinity."

"Yet to us there is one God the Father, Of whom are all things, and we for him; And one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him." -- 1 Corinthians 8:6

Rotherham - The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology:
"The N[ew] T[estament] does not contain the developed doctrine of the Trinity."

"The Bible lacks the express declaration that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are of equal essence.", said Protestant theologian Karl Barth

"God is supreme over Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 11:3 - Good News Bible

Yale University Professor E. Washburn Hopkins: "To Jesus and Paul the doctrine of the trinity was apparently unknown; . . . they say nothing about it." -- Origin and Evolution of Religion.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Peter 1:3 - New Berkeley Version

Tom Harpur states, "As early as the 8th century, the Theologian St. John of Damascus frankly admitted what every modern critical scholar of the NT now realizes: that neither the Doctrine of the Trinity nor that of the 2 natures of Jesus Christ is explicitly set out in scripture. In fact, if you take the record as it is and avoid reading back into it the dogmatic definitions of a later age, you cannot find what is traditionally regarded as orthodox Christianity in the Bible at all." -- For Christ's Sake.

"I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." -- John 20:17 - New International Version

Historian Arthur Weigall: "Jesus Christ never mentioned such a phenomenon, and nowhere in the New Testament does the word 'Trinity' appear. The idea was only adopted by the Church three hundred years after the death of our Lord." -- The Paganism in Our Christianity

"Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." 1Cor 1:3 ASV

The New Encyclopædia Britannica: "Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord' -- Deut. 6:4
. . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since." -- Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126. (1976)

"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception." -- Colossians 2:8 - New American Standard Bible

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective." - (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

"In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men." -- Matthew 15:9 - Common Bible-RSV

The Encyclopedia Americana: "Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching." -- (1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

"No one has ever seen deity, but Jesus." -- John 1:18 - Simple English Bible

The Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches . . . This Greek philosopher's [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions." -- (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.

"Yet about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, not even the Son; no one but the Father." -- Mark 13:32 - Revised English Bible

"The belief as so defined was reached only in the 4th and 5th centuries AD and hence is not explicitly and formally a biblical belief. The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of "person" and "nature: which are Gk philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as "essense" and "substance" were erroneously applied to God by some theologians." Dictionary of the Bible by John L. McKenzie, S.J. p. 899

"Every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." -- Matt 12;31,32 - Revised Standard Version

Regarding the Nicene Council and those that followed, Hans Kung in Christianity says, "The conciliar decisions plunged Chrisitianity into undreamed-of theological confusions with constant entanglements in church politics. They produced splits and sparked off a persecution of heretics unique in the history of religion. This is what Christianity became as it changed its nature from a persecuted minority to a majority persecuting others."

"By this all will know that you are disciples of mine, if you have love for each other." -- John 13:35 Byington

-- For much, much more on the Trinity, click here.

"Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Well I like to be fair, so I will now give the other side a chance to explain their belief:
"We are to consider the order of those persons in the Trinity described in the words before us in Matthew 28:19. First the Father and then the Son and then the Holy Ghost; everyone one of which is truly God. This is a mystery which we are all bound to believe, but yet must exercise great care in how we speak of it, it being both easy and dangerous to err in expressing so great a truth as this is. If we think of it, how hard it is to imagine one numerically divine nature in more than one and the same divine person. Or three divine persons in no more than one and the same divine nature. If we speak of it, how hard it is to express it. If I say, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost be three, and everyone a distinct God, it is false. I may say, God the Father is one God and the Son is one God, and the Holy Ghost is one God, but I cannot say that the Father is one God and the Son is another God and the Holy Ghost is a third God. I may say that the Father begat another who is God; yet I cannot say that He begat another God. I may say that from the Father and Son proceeds another who is God; yet I cannot say that from the Father and Son proceeds another God. For though their nature be the same their persons are distinct; and though their persons be distinct, yet still their nature is the same. So that, though the Father be the first person in the Godhead, the Son the second and the Holy Ghost the third, yet the Father is not the first, the Son the second and the Holy Ghost a third God. So hard it is to word so great a mystery aright; or to fit so high a truth with expressions suitable and proper to it, without going one way or another from it." Bishop Beverage, Private Thoughts, Part 2, 48, 49, cited by Charles Morgridge, The True Believers Defence Against Charges Preferred by Trinitarians for Not Beleiving in the Deity of Christ (Boston: B. Greene, 1837), 16.

Nuff said!

Yes, I do not always agree 100% with some of the other works of the above mentioned authors, but then, I don't agree 100% with anyone..period. I have produced an eclectic array of trinitarians, non-trinitarians, pagans, skeptics, atheists, liberal theologians to provide a rounded view that people from all walks of life, people of great intelligence find humor and incredulity in the triune doctrine.
So why use them? I will finish off with a quote from E.H. Broadbent to show you where I am coming from. Speaking of the much persecuted but humble group of Christians of times past, the Waldenses and the Albigenses, he says "They considered that in all times and in all forms of churches there were enlightened men of god. They therefore made use of the writings of Ambrose, Augustine, Chrysostom, Bernard of Clairvaux and others, not accepting, however, all they wrote, but only that which corresponded with the older, purer teaching of Scripture." The Pilgrim Church, p.120